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1. Donovan Craig
   Member

   Hey Ckzch,

   Those slopers are comfortable, and you probably could pinch the two smaller ones.
   The two larger ones at the back are both about 12-13" long and about 8 or 9" wide. And the ridge of the left one is fairly aggressive only encorage the climber to "feel" around. I love indoor holds that can acheive a sense of adventure, meaning that you dont know exactly whats the best spot or how to even use the hold, until you get to it. I mean everyone probably has a really good idea of what they're doing, but its cool when you're climbing inside and then someone else grabs the same hold alittle differently and suddenly the light bulb goes off!

   Cheers

   Posted 2 years ago #

2. Dr3wst3r
   Member

   Did any of these shapes make it yet. I really loved the pinches.

   Posted 1 year ago #

3. Donovan Craig
   Member

   Sorry Drewster, none of them did make it to final product. I have contacted many manufacturers yet to no avil.

   I am looking at getting some of my shapes to World Cup Climbing Holds, but thats not yet a done deal.

   Im also looking into just DIY, but I dont have the cash flow, therefore its taking me a while. I realise that I wont really compete with these other companies, yet I am confident in my shapes that it may be at least worth my while.

   Sorry to drag this out, but it is cool that even months later, people are still interested in my shapes. That tells you something!!! <- thats a hint to hold companies that are looking for good shapes! :)

   Posted 1 year ago #

4. Anonymous
   Unregistered

   Donovan-

   No, it doesn't tell you anything... Gumbie setters, with no experience or knowledge of what a good hold is, are the ones "interested in your shapes." There's a reason no hold company wants your shapes... But here's some constructive advice, make some silicone molds of your shapes, then shit in them, put it in the freezer and when they're done put em out and i'm sure Climbingholdreview would love to have them and write how amazing they are.

   Posted 1 year ago #

5. Donovan Craig
   Member

   LOL

   Posted 1 year ago #

6. thisreallyhastostop
   Member

   Lame-

   My best advice is that you should go and fuck yourself, Donovan is trying to contribute something to the climbing community; same for climbingholdreview. You thus far have done nothing but drag what was an interesting forum into disrepute with your disrespect of other people and your continued disregard of people that are trying to do something within the climbing community... a community that I might add that you seem eager to comment upon; even thou you seem to add nothing but bad vibes and pointless comments.

   Please:
   go and find another forum to express your views upon
   or
   take up splunking

   Yrs

   Anon
   -long time lurker, posting under another name

   Posted 1 year ago #

7. Kaleb Thomas
   Member

   Agreed,

   To many people here are either taking this way to seriously, or are just idiots.

   Its actually starting to degrade them forum to an uninteresting piece of jabber about childish bullshit to the point were I do not want to read anymore.

   Thanks to all you lovely assholes who have made this forum so much worse... You have obviously done what you set out to do.

   Kaleb Thomas

   Posted 1 year ago #

8. Anonymous
   Unregistered

   ok, ok, That was mean, although hilarious, it was childish and not contributing to the routesetter forum. I'll stop the bashing on gumbie posts, keep my comments in my head and go f myself.

   -lame.... out

   Posted 1 year ago #

9. jf
   Member

   I think the shapes look rad Donovan. I'd love to give them a try.. if only.

   Posted 1 year ago #

10. Donovan Craig
    Member

    Thanks bro! Hence my response to Lame... He is more than welcome to his own opinion but 20 likes and 1 dislike definitely lets me know where I stand among my peers.

    Posted 1 year ago #

11. acorneau
    Member

    Hey Donovan,

    Just an idea: see if you can get one of the hold companies to let you pay them to pour a few sets of your best holds. Then you'll be able to get them in the "hands" of some folks that might be able to give you honest user feedback and possibly some positive word-of-mouth advertising.

    Good luck.

    Posted 1 year ago #

12. Donovan Craig
    Member

    Thanks for the idea acorneau, Im already on it... you gotta spend money to make money! and now Im broke :)

    Posted 1 year ago #

13. Kaleb Thomas
    Member

    Lame,

    Thanks!!

    Posted 1 year ago #

14. Donovan Craig
    Member

    

    Just so you guys know, this set will come to life, via BlackSwanHolds.com . It'll be a set of six (other 2 not pictured).

    Thanks.

    Posted 1 year ago #

15. gayholdreview
    Member

    Donovan -

    Thanks for posting your shapes for your peers to review. I think its great that you're working at this and you're eager to see what it is that everyone thinks of your shapes.

    I will say that I like these shapes alot more than your previous cube shapes you posted above. These look much more enjoyable to climb on. I also think that these would be the best shapes that Black Swan offers in comparison to the rest of their crappy shapes. All in all, not bad.

    P.S.

    Happy holidays to all of the "RS'ers" out there. My gift (that keeps on giving) is that Poodles the Flunky Boy doesn't post his Climbing Hold Review bullshit opinions on here nearly as frequently as he was doing earlier in the year. And that, my friends, makes this forum much more pleasant to read.

    Posted 1 year ago #

16. climbingholdreview
    Member

    and my gift is hoping that you keep on posting
    ass-hat

    Posted 1 year ago #

17. Donovan Craig
    Member

    The latest editions to http://www.blackswanholds.com hope you like them...

    Diamond cut jugs
    

    Caterpillar Pinches
    

    Posted 1 year ago #

18. Barth
    Member

    Donovan,
    Great shapes all around.
    Is blackswan going to be mass producing your shapes for purchase by us commoners? Or just for you to have some real holds that you can show potentially interested hold companies that may be interested in your shapes?
    Good stuff, keep the dream alive!

    Posted 1 year ago #

19. Donovan Craig
    Member

    Hey Barth, thanks very much! I appreciate the sentiment.

    Yes you can buy all of these holds from Blackswanholds.com , the latest that I heard from them is that they are putting cash back into their website and releasing these sets at the same time for great customers (like you). I have had the privileged to climb on most of these sets and I am happy with them, I feel that they stack up to pretty much any product out there on the market currently.

    I think if you would like to get any of these from them right now the best thing to do would be to just email them..... info [at] blackswanholds [dot] com

    Happy climbing :)

    Posted 1 year ago #

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